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Problematic Sahih Hadith
  • Quran Only Source of Law
  • Anti-Hadith Hadith
    • Quran the only thing the prophet left
    • The only book left by the prophet
    • Fabricated Hadith Warning
    • Quran is Sufficient
    • Follow Laws only in Quran
    • Accept Only Hadith That Align with Quran
    • Companions Refrain from Hadith
    • Companions Forbidden to Ask Prophet About Matters
    • Do not write anything other than Quran
    • Best Hadith is Quran
    • The only preserved divine revelation was Quran
    • Beware of Hadith
    • The character of the prophet is Quran
    • Allah curses propagators of Hadith
    • Do Not Trust Hadith Alone
    • Hadith innovators can't be helped in Hereafter
    • Obedience is required only in what is maruf
    • Prophet's only miracle was Quran
    • Obedience Conditional
    • What to do if disagree regarding Quran
    • Are the dead punished for the weeping of their relatives?
    • The Prophet's Will
    • Beware of the Sahaba
    • Show your isnad
    • Lying About Muhammad
    • La Ilaha Illa Allah
  • Don't Elevate Prophet
    • No Superiority Among Prophets
    • Do not make distinctions among prophets of God
    • Don't exaggerate praise of prophet
    • Prophet's judgment was falliable
    • Prophet can't intercede
    • Don't worship the prophet
    • Prophet's only miracle was Quran
    • Prophet doesn't know his future
    • None better than prophet Yunus
    • Muhammad just human
    • Joseph more patient
    • Moses more patient
    • Abraham best of creation
    • Muhammad Did Not Explain Quran
    • Graves of the Prophet
  • Hadith insults the prophet
    • Prophet considers suicide
    • Prophet Bewitched
    • Prophet's Shyness
    • Mose's Scrotal Hernia
    • Solomon's wives
    • Covering Corpse with Saliva
    • Abraham was a liar
    • Muhammad had intercourse while fasting
    • Prophet burned an ant colony
    • Prophet forgot suras of Quran
    • Man fornicates with the mother of the prophet's son
    • Prophet had lice
    • Muhammad ate meat sacrificed to idols
    • Muhammad's Child Nemesis (Ibn Sayyad)
  • Wives of the Prophet
    • Fondling (Sex During Menses)
    • Semen Stains
    • Sexual Relations
    • Married a PoW in a single day
    • Sauda's figure
    • 'Aishah Breastfed Grown Men
    • 'Aishah performed ghusl for her nephews
    • Prophet Fulfilling Need
    • Tongue Sucking During Fasting
    • Aisha Mocking Khadijah
  • Views on Women
    • Majority in Hell are women
    • Most deficient in intelligence and religion
    • Wives to prostrate to husbands
    • Sex Slaves
    • Wife's responsibility
    • Need Husband Permission to Fast
    • Female Genital Mutliation
    • Women Naturally Crooked
    • Temporary Marriage
    • Temporary Marriage During Pilgrimage
    • Virgin Consent
    • Women are bad omens
    • Tricking virgin an orphan slave girl to marry is allowed
    • Adult male suckling
    • Forbid returning home at night from a journey
  • Pedo Hadith
    • Pedo Homo
    • Slave Children
    • Why not marry a slave child?
    • Tricking an orphan slave girl to marriage is permissible
    • Aisha's Age
    • Child Definition
  • Violence
    • Assassinations
    • Killing Captives
    • Adhan Attack
    • Sex Captives
    • Threat to burn houses of those who did not show up for Salat
    • Harming Women and Children
    • Torture and Mutliation
    • Baby girl going to hell
    • Kill Apostate
    • Evicting and killing Jews and Christians
    • Severing of Hands
    • Beating as a punishment
    • Umar kills his son by flogging
    • Flogging Wife and Slave
    • Kill Future Quran Reciters
    • Stoning Adulterer
    • Monkey Adultery
    • Kill dogs
    • Kill lizards
    • Kill snakes
    • Kill Vermin
  • Contradictions
    • First Revelation
    • Last Verse Revealed
    • Don't Follow Commands that aren't Maruf
    • Marrying the aunt of one's wife
    • Kill, Don't Kill
    • Age of 60
    • Only Salat are the Prescribed Salat
    • Breathing while drinking
    • Drinking While Standing
    • Those in Hell
    • Follow/Don't Follow Ruler
    • Lying one leg ontop of the other
    • Laylat al Qadr Uncertainty
    • Abraham's Intercession
    • Do not talk about personal sex lives
    • Cupping
    • Solomon Wives
    • Location of Farewell Sermon
    • Did the Prophet Know the Future (Unseen)?
    • Ka'ba Rebuilt
    • Punishment for having a dog
    • What interrupts Salat
    • Abraham's Dream
    • Adult suckling
    • 2 Sister Marriage
    • Paternity Determination
    • Intercession by Muslims
    • Temporary Marriage
    • Punishment for adultery
    • Dajjal Eye
    • Deceased Tormented
    • Tattooing, removing hair from the face
    • Guaranteed Paradise
    • Fortune telling
    • Fasting
    • Worst lie
    • Prophet's only miracle was Quran
    • Timing of End of the World
    • Severing Hands
    • Life of the Prophet
    • Age of death Abu Bakr and Umar
    • 600 wings
    • Hajj: Quran or Hadith?
    • Umra and Hajj of the Prophet
    • Woman Travel
    • 25x or 27x
    • Mutilation
    • Don't Turn Houses into Graves
    • Jesus Return
    • Intercourse during breastfeeding
    • All prophets tended sheep
    • Don't Make Unlawful for yourself 66:1
  • Dietary Prohibitions
    • Donkey Meat
    • Beast of Prey with Fangs
    • Odd Number of Dates
    • Garlic and Onions Prohibition
  • Random Prohibitions
    • Pictures
    • Dog Prohibition
    • Tattoos, False Hair, Facial Hair
    • Gold Rings
    • Wedding Invite
    • Saffron
    • Prohibited to fast on Fridays
    • Statues and Graves
    • Cleaning Privates
    • Don't eat with left hand
    • Forbidden Mourning
    • Bells are for Satan
    • Lick fingers after eating
    • Drinking from certain cups
    • Laughing at passing wind
    • Marrying Wife's Aunt
    • Throwing Stones
    • Wearing one shoe
    • Don't touch penis with right hand
    • Items must be separated before being sold
    • A slave that runs away is a Kufr
    • Silk Forbidden
    • Soiled Urine Deserves Eternal Torture
  • Salat Confusion
    • 50 Salat
    • Siwak and Wudu
    • Salat Names
    • Salat Fateah and Bismillah
    • Spitting During Salat
    • Combining Salats
    • Salat Times
    • False Wudu
    • Wudu after eating camel meat
    • Cooked Food and Wudu
    • Salat al-Wusta
    • Shoe ablution
    • Obligatory to Bathe on Fridays
    • Isha
    • Adhan
    • Salat is lost
    • Qibla
    • Nullifying Salat
    • Rak'a
  • Prophet Miracles
    • Muhammad's Only Miracle was Quran
    • Moon split
    • Finger Flowing Stream
    • Crying Stem
    • Talking Trees
    • Lots of dates
    • Greeted by a stone
    • Escorting trees
    • Stopped the sun
    • Rain
    • Food for the masses
    • Well
  • Idolizing the Prophet
    • The Prophet's Spittle
    • Prophet beard hair
    • Prophet's Intercession
    • Prophet Didn't Need Food or Drink
    • Sweat of the prophet
    • The most entitled
    • The Prophet's Names
    • Prophet's Handsomeness
    • Talking from the grave?
    • Prophet Bodies Don't Decay
    • Prophets Are Alive in their Grave
    • Eyes behind his head
    • The Prophet's Hands
    • Prophet Knew the Future
    • Prostrating to Muhammad
    • Seeking refuge in Muhammad
  • Mimic The Prophet
    • Start with the right
    • How to eat
    • How to eat dates
    • Circumcision at Puberty
    • Pluck Armpit Hairs
    • Never ate at a table
    • Never ate two meals
    • How to drink
    • Proper grooming
    • How to put on and take off shoes
    • How did prophet urinate
    • How to defecate
    • Siwak
  • Political Ad Hadith
    • Recommended to Kill Kharijites
    • Kill believers who fight the Ummah
    • Yazid bin Mu'awiyah destroys Ka'aba
    • Succession
    • People of the House
    • Pro 'Aisha
    • Pro Ali
    • Pro-Uthman
    • Pro Quraish
    • Pro Umayyad
    • Pro Ubayy bin Ka'b
    • Pro Sa'd
    • Pro Mas'ud
    • Pro Abu Sufyan
    • Pro Yemen
    • Pro Ansar
    • Anti-Ali
    • Anti Mu'awaiyah
    • Ijma
    • Kill the supporters and the contender to the Caliph
    • Blind obedience to Caliph
    • Fight Jews
    • Muslims will ransom Jews and Christians for Hell
    • Following Jews and Christians
    • Do the opposite of Jews and Christians
  • Abu Hurairah
    • Jewish Influence
    • Liar
    • Beware of Man who Narrates Everything he Hears
    • Abu Hurairah Narrates Too Much
    • 'Aisha Denounce Abu Hurairah Narrations
    • Abu Hurairah never forgets
    • Insulting Hagar
    • Ways to be martyred
    • Talking Cow and Wolf
    • Prophecy
    • Faces of Prostitutes
    • Abraham's circumcision
    • A tribe of Jews became mice
    • Adam and Moses debate
    • Prophet's Sandal
    • Moses Punches Angel of Death
    • Bad Tafsir
    • Zakariya was a carpenter
    • Israiliyat
  • Satan and Jinns
    • Satan's Antics
    • Satan breaking wind
    • Catching Satan
    • Satan can't open doors
    • Satan waits in our nose when we sleep
    • Yawning
    • Snakes and Jinns
    • Satan eats with the left hand
    • Satan stealing food
    • Black dogs are Shaitan
    • Camels are from Satan
    • Feeding Jinns
    • Talking to Jinns
  • Bad Science
    • Child Gender
    • Adam's Height
    • Child's Resemblance
    • Black Cumin: The cure for every disease
    • Only 3 forms of healing
    • Tailbone preservation
    • Camel urine
    • Treat Wounds With Saliva
    • Protection from poison and magic
    • God comes near Earth at night
    • Fly in food
    • Embryology
    • The Earth, Fish, and Ox
    • Human Height
    • Salman al-Farsi Lived 250-350 years
    • Bad Math
    • Source of Thunder
    • 500 Years
    • Summer and Winter
    • Weather Forecast
    • Where the sun sets
    • Prophet Ascribed to Fal (Fortune Telling)
    • No Contagious Disease
  • Quraish Religion
    • Believed in Abraham, Ishmael, and Mary
    • 360 Idols at Kaaba
    • Hajj
    • Companions request idols
    • Dedicated Meat
    • Stone Worship
    • False Prophet During Muhammad's Life
    • People of Allah
    • Written Injeel
    • Quraish didn't think they were associating partners with God
    • Quraish believed in messengers but rejected Muhammad
    • Pre-Islamic Marriage
    • Adhan
    • Quraish had Li'an
    • Kaaba Rebuilt
  • Quran Compilation
    • Written Quran (Mus'haf)
    • Four People Collected Quran
    • Uthman's Mus'haf
    • 9:128-129
    • Sura Bara'a Revealed at Once
    • Consolidating Suras 8 & 9
    • 33:23
    • Altered Verse
    • Mus'haf in the dialect of Quraish
    • Mus'haf in the dialect of Mudar
    • Prophet was not illiterate
    • Qirat
    • Ambiguity about verses
    • Abrogated Suras
    • Abrogated verses
    • Lost Verses
    • Stoning Verse
    • Satanic Verses
    • Ibn Mas'ud Quran
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Musanaf of Abdulrazaq (17047)

[ (17047) – أخبرنا عبد الرزاق قال : أخبرنا معمر عن الزهري عن سالم عن ابن عمر قال : شرب أخي – عبد الرحمن بن عمر (1) – وشرب معه أبو سروعة عقبة (2) بن الحارث ، وهما بمصر في خلافة عمر ، فسكرا ، فلما أصبحا انطلقا إلى عمرو بن العاص ، وهو أمير مصر ، فقالا : طهرنا ، فإنا قد سكرنا من شراب شربناه ، فقال عبد الله : فذكر لي أخي أنه سكر ، فقلت : ادخل الدار أطهرك ، ولم أشعر أنهماأتيا عمروا ، فأخبرني أخي أنه قد أخبر الامير بذلك ، فقال عبد الله : لا يحلق القوم على رؤوس الناس ، ادخل الدار أحلقك – وكانوا إذ ذاك يحلقون مع الحدود – فدخل الدار ، فقال عبد الله : فحلقت أخي بيدي ثم جلدهم عمرو ، فسمع بذلك عمر ، فكتب إلى عمرو أن ابعث إلي بعبد الرحمن على قتب ، ففعل ذلك ، فلما قدم على عمر جلده وعاقبه لمكانه منه ، ثم أرسله ، فلبث شهرا صحيحا ثم أصابه قدره فمات ، فيحسب عامة الناس أنما مات من جلد عمر ، ولم يمت من جلد عمر.

Abul Razzaq said Muammar informed us on the authority of Al-Zuhri, on the authority of Salem, on the authority of Ibn Omar.

He said: My brother Abdul-Rahman Ibn Umar Abu Suro'ah drank with him, Ibn al-Harith (son of the Lion), while they were both in Egypt during the caliphate of Omar, and they both got drunk. And when it was morning, they both went to Amir ibn al-Aas, the Amir of Egypt, so they both said: Purify us, for we got drunk from a drink we drank, and Abdullah said, so my brother mentioned to me that he was drunk, so I said: Enter the house I will purify you, and I did not feel that they had desired to live. So my brother told me that he had told the prince about that, and Abdullah said: Not he flogs the folks over the heads of the people. Enter the home, and I will flog you. And then they were flogged in accordance with the law. So he entered the house, and Abdullah said: So I flogged my brother with my hand, then Amir flogged them. When Omar heard of that, he wrote to Amir to "send me Abdul Rahman on a pole." So he did that, and when he proceeded to Omar, he flogged and punished him for his position with him, then sent him. So he waited for a whole month, then his fate befell him, and he died, so most people think that he died from the flogging of Omar, and he did not die from the flogging of Omar.

__________ (1) هو الذي يكنى أبا شحمة ، وهو الاوسط ، ولعمر ثلاثة بنين يسمون عبد الرحمن. (2) في الاصل هنا وفي السادس جميعا (أبو سروعة بن عقبة) ولكن في الاصابة وغيرها أن عقبة بن الحارث نفسه يكنى أبا سروعة ، فليحرر.

Ibn Hajar Rahimahu Allah said in Al-Isabah:

وأما أهل العراق فيقولون إنه مات تحت السياط وهو غلط انتهىوقد أخرج عبد الرزاق القصة مطولة عن معمر بالسند المذكور وهو صحيح

As for the people of Iraq, they say that he died under the whips, and this is a mistake. It is over. Abd al-Razzaq brought out a lengthy story on the authority of Muammar with the aforementioned chain of narrators, and it is authentic.

https://www.alim.org/history/khaleefa/umar/17/21/